FQ204 The 2012 Deception

[kaijuu]

as long as I know, it is named that there exist prinsipalities powers etc, in my actual understanding, I could never see the reason why people assume that abbadon is a fallen angel beside the fact that it says that is king of bottomless pit , it could not be (as I though) that it is the angel who controls those locust as they are named in the revelation? I always have the center key that the devil can not be against the devil, if you see in the revelation and the bibla , Gods angels always punishes the wicked , and the devil is the one who tempts , or stand agains the people of God , it makes no sence if you think that a devil commanding locust to attack evil people ... mmm and of course even (in my understanding) there is no point in assuming that abbadon is anything else more than what iot says it is .
Just remember that the devil it is not in charge of the hell as the catholic mithologie indicates , the bible says that michael is the one who will put to prision the devil in the abyss , and of course it must be an angel the one in charge of the tartarus where the angels who sinned are , and so on , I think so ,whatever , I remember that peter said that michael fought for the body of moses ,
and even I think that the reason why it says that hell follows the death is simply because the ones who are killed by that are under God judgement , and they all go to Hell , nothing more strange than that...

[kaijuu]

and I forget to say , beside what I said before , that it is curious that the dragon in chinese folk , is some sort of a water God , and it is not a reptile for them , but some sort of chimera made of several animals , also a simbol of wisdom , etc , it correlates in some way with the sea serpent leviathan from the bible...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_dragon

[Barry]

Interesting thoughts, Kaijuu.

Thanks for sharing.

[Whrose]

as long as I know, it is named that there exist prinsipalities powers etc, in my actual understanding, I could never see the reason why people assume that abbadon is a fallen angel beside the fact that it says that is king of bottomless pit , it could not be (as I though) that it is the angel who controls those locust as they are named in the revelation? I always have the center key that the devil can not be against the devil, if you see in the revelation and the bibla , Gods angels always punishes the wicked , and the devil is the one who tempts , or stand agains the people of God , it makes no sence if you think that a devil commanding locust to attack evil people ... mmm and of course even (in my understanding) there is no point in assuming that abbadon is anything else more than what iot says it is .
Just remember that the devil it is not in charge of the hell as the catholic mithologie indicates , the bible says that michael is the one who will put to prision the devil in the abyss , and of course it must be an angel the one in charge of the tartarus where the angels who sinned are , and so on , I think so ,whatever , I remember that peter said that michael fought for the body of moses ,
and even I think that the reason why it says that hell follows the death is simply because the ones who are killed by that are under God judgement , and they all go to Hell , nothing more strange than that...

You raise a good point and I have given much thought about the adjectives that the Bible gives us for Apollyon.

In Rev 9:11    he is called an angel and king
In Rev 13:2    he is called a beast
In Rev 13:18  he is has a number of a man

Now my question. What kind of being can be described as a man and an angel and a beast.
Clue: Genesis 6 will lead one to the understanding of his nature. He is "one" with his father and is empowered by him. The power that God gave to him long ago over the earth and mankind...but not for long!!
His reign is coming to END and his defeat described by The Gospel of Jesus Christ and by His Testimony
 

But there are many more OT passages that describe him! We have read them all.

We know from Rev 17:10-11.... that he is a king that was one of 7 who have fallen. Take a moment and think  about what the Lord is telling us here ie 7 kings have fallen...fallen where? when? who?. He is one of those 7 who have fallen and IS THE EIGHTH

This being is something that challenges our understanding. He is the finale of evil in this age. 

[summer]

This  has  buged  me  for  a  long  time.........
  I  somehow  see  something  so  powerfull.  &  sinister  its  beond  words.
We  are  looking  for  a  man....BUT  Is  it    a  man?   Or  a  Beast  of  some kind?

The  Most  sinester Beast  you  can  think  of??

[Death Before Apostasy]

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In Rev 9:11    he is called an angel and king
In Rev 13:2    he is called a beast
In Rev 13:18  he is has a number of a man

 
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9:11      God of this world:             2Co 4:4  in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving ones, so that the light of the glorious gospel of Christ (who is the image of God) should not dawn on them.           (Satin)

In Rev 13:2    he is called a beast:            Nephilim: Something God did not create, Not a human or angelic soul, a BEAST.
         Rev 19:20  And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet doing signs before it, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast), and those who had worshiped his image. The two were thrown alive into the Lake of Fire burning with brimstone.             ( "HIM  &B HIS" ) a creature not a system.)
Dan 2:43  And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.    (Nephilim)

In Rev 13:18  he is has a number of a man:    ( Half man and accepted as such)

             IMHO:           DBA

[Whrose]

   

I am on the same page brother DBA! "Three" rolled in to the "one" son of perdition.

[summer]

The   Question  is>>>>>>>>

What  does it  look  like???

[Death Before Apostasy]

The   Question  is>>>>>>>>

What  does it  look  like???

          It / They:    Are blond, very handsome and chaismatic but talk with a digital voice. They are referred to as Nordics.
    Grays, Reptilians and Nordics. But they are all Nephilim, Hybrids and Mutants.

[summer]

It  will   rise  out  of the  sea.!..  No man   will  be  able  to  make  War  against  it!........................  Not  the  U.S..
Not   Russia. or China. ... The  Beast will  be  Allein... Thats  what  Revalations  is  all  about...
  Its  not  a  man  as  such  for  all  man  shell  worshep  it,  Because  of  its  power  over  man..
    The  movie  War Of  The Worlds  comes  to  mind..  Thats  why  there  must  be  a  Rapture...
  It  so  Whorable  man  Heart  will  fail  him. >>   from fear..  Let  a  man  who  has  wisdom  know  this..     
  Man  will  follow  it... And  worshep  it!  Because  of  its  power  over  man!..   We  look  for  a  man... For  we  are  blinded  of  such  things  to  come..

What  could  be  so  powerfull  that  only  God  could  sent  it  to  hell>    satan  will   have  a  Antichrist..  Who  will    demand  that  we  follow  the  Beast!.  And  work  hand  in  hand  with  the  Beast.!..........................Enought  of  my  Bableing.........That  will  cost  you 

[Whrose]

LOL, brother Summer!

Give me your address and I will send you that 2 cents.

It sounds so sci fi and incredible, but you make a good argument.

DBA, its been a long time since I heard the words Nordic ET. Years ago read the accounts and big picture book by Billy Meir regarding his contact. At the time I was yodeling in hope to meet those Nordics. Now I want nothing to do with them and hope I never see them.

Lord have mercy

[summer]

My  address  is>>>   lord  have mercy  on  me.  Zip code. 666   Enytown  Ca.


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[johnnythelongshoreman]

666 is a perfectly good number, Just don't get it marked on your wrist or forehead.  Cause there is no turning back after that.

I tell that to people who don't know the bible and are afraid of 666 cause they think it's bad luck or think it's evil but don't know why.

I love saying that:  "666 is a perfectly good number just don't.........."

Johnny

[summer]

 Some  people are funny..   666  is  999  upside down.. So  they  dont  care if  its  stamped on  them /

Then  again  if  this  is> //\/]\//\``  666 people  will  say  its  999.

[thunderbyrd]

Wow, i just got done listening to this show at work tonight, EXCELLENT! i wish to point out, not in a critical way, but just interesting information, pretty much everthing he said lines up perfectly with what Constance Cumby told us, 25+ yrs ago.

great show and i hope i can get some use out of it next time i want to explain some of this stuff to somebody.

[johnnythelongshoreman]

Yeah, and Constance Cumby was actually a guest on futurequake about 6 months ago.  Good show~! 

My wife snagged the lastest qwake with judge neoplitan ice cream.  But it just flashed through i-tunes for a second, long enough for her to download it and now it is gone.  Then she deleted it from here laptop.  I am thinking this was some kind of mistake ridden rare undedited qwake that I could have in my collection.  I am trying to snag it from her ipod now.

I feel so special!!

I figured out a trick.  I went into itunes and hit the subscribe to qwake button in the podcast section.  Now I am getting the new qwake ahead of a yall.  Neat trick.

But enough conspira-qwakes.  I WANT NEPHALIME.  I WANT THE FALLEN!!! (just kidding Doc)

Johnny