Javier Solana Thread (Merged)

[chatty-kathi]

Soft Touch,

In doing a quick search of your site, I wonder if I should post the following info. in another thread?  Herb Peters is the person who first discovered the connection to Recommendation 666.  There is quite a bit behind this story, and he has written a book that can be read online for free that I reference below.  I will try to answer your questions as to why this may fit. 

The Barcelona Process is another name for the 1995 Euro-Mediterranean Partnership for Peace (Euromed).  It was implemented through Javier Solana and is intended to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.  The Euromed failed, and it is now being implemented through the European Neighborhood Policy, which includes financial incentives (the instrument), and is called the ENPI.  The first country to sign on was Israel.

Farmer, who has a blog in Europe, wrote: 

"14.03.2005: Margot Wallström holds a speech in Cairo

15.03.2005 Herb Peters writes at www. Fulfilledprophecy.com:

"EU official by the name of Margot Wallström said something that may have added one of the final pieces to this end-time puzzle. She said the EU's new European Neighborhood Policy (ENP) doesn't replace Javier Solana's 1995 Barcelona Process, it strengthens it. She said:

"the European Neighborhood Policy does not replace the process launched ten years ago in Barcelona. It renews it, clarifies it and breathes fresh life into it"

(Interestingly, on the 17th this last sentence suddenly was changed to read, "It adds to and makes things happen." Then, after I commented about this, the whole speech was removed.)

Notice what she said? The new ENP renews, clarifies and breathes fresh life into the Barcelona Process. In other words -- in fact, in biblical words -- the ENP "confirms" the agreement Solana negotiated in Barcelona back in 1995. And, the amazing thing is, it will do so for a seven year period. Here's how we know that. She also said:

"This policy will be financed by a new neighborhood instrument ... in the new financial perspectives beyond 2006."

This means, starting on January 1, 2007, the EU will enter into its next seven-year budget term. So, on that date, the ENP will begin being funded by its new, seven-year funding instrument.
 
As I've been saying, Javier Solana negotiated the Barcelona agreement. At the time, it was between 15 EU member states and 12 Mediterranean states. Today its between 25 EU members states and 10 Mediterranean states. These 10 nations are Algeria, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Palestinian Authority, Syria, Tunisia and Turkey.

Here's where it gets even more intriguing. Also on January 1, 2007, Solana is scheduled to move into his two new Offices. He will become the EU's first super, Foreign Minister and a Vice President in the Commission. This means, as Foreign Minister, Solana will have almost total control over the EU's new military wing, along with directing the EU's foreign and security policy. As a Vice President in the Commission, he will have control over the EU's vast civilian capabilities and access to the EU's purse strings.

Let's look again at that important passage from Daniel. We read:
 
"And he [the coming Antichrist] will make a firm [or make strong, confirm] covenant with the many for one week [seven years], but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate" (Daniel 9:27 New American Standard Bible).

Question: On January 1, 2007, will Solana confirm, or make strong, his 1995 covenant with many for a seven year period? Is that what his new ENP is really about?

I think that's what this lady is saying.

17.3. Herb writes at www.fulfilledprophecy.com:

A Sleight Change?!

It's amazing what changing a few words can accomplish. Since I began linking to the speech given by the EU's Margot Wallstrom, a sleight change occurred. This is how it read before:

"the European Neighborhood Policy does not replace the process launched ten years ago in Barcelona. It renews it, clarifies it and breathes fresh life into it."
Now it reads:

"the European Neighborhood Policy does not replace the process launched ten years ago in Barcelona. It adds to it and makes things happen." ( After I posted this commentary, the whole speech was removed.)

http://europa.eu.int/rapi...o?reference=SPEECH/05/171
&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en

Question: How can a speech suddenly change after its been given?
 
Answer: Eurospin. It can even be retroactive.”

The European Neighborhood Policy was finalized in October 2006, and it officially went into effect on Jan. 1, 2007.  The ending date for this ENPI is Dec. 31, 2013.  It has a mid point Action Plan review in 2010, which interestingly, includes “specific actions to improve the protection and welfare of animals”  If this is the “covenant with many”, at the 3-l/2 years point we will see the Abomination of Desolation in which the animal sacrifices are ceased by the Antichrist.  That means the temple will be rebuilt before 2010. 

The originator of F.P., Herb Peters, wrote the book Recommendation 666, which can be read for free at http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/ .  On that same page, under Quick Links, you can read Herb's Overview, which discusses the Euromed.

The final nail in the coffin may be the U.N.'s Alliance of Civilizations, which is speculated may be the vehicle the Antichrist will use to persecute the saints.  Herb tells us in his Overview:

“The AOC's stated goal is to avoid a clash of civilizations by building a bridge between the West and the Muslim world. "  It will control immigration for the Euromed and control religious extremism.  The AOC is being pushed by Tony Blair, with a goal to extend it globally.  Herb said, “A World Parliament of eminent religious leaders is to follow.  Also so soon follow is the appointment of an AOC High Representative  a person of renowned political and religious qualificiations. 

If it makes it through the UN process, then the AOC will become operational in September 2009, just in time to be fully functional in 2010  the middle of the seven-year period.”

From Constance Cumbey's blog, we read:

”The Alliance of Civilizations intends to introduce its recommendations before the UN General Assembly in September 2007. Once approved, the Alliance plans for a 24 month implementation period. This would firmly seat the Alliance of Civilizations as a world wide entity by the end of 2009.

According to one Alliance report:

"Symbols can be very effective tools in advancing a cause. The creation of a house or temple of religions or civilizations in as many cities as possible will be a tangible and important step in this direction."

What do they mean by “religious extremism”?  From http://davidjbutterfield....f-civilizations-gist.html , we read in part:

“The final report of the United Nations' Alliance of Civilizations (AoC) initiative was released last month. In addition to its usual goal of combating exclusivist ideology, the report contains some interesting elements:

1) Exclusivist ideology is defined as “those who feed on exclusion and claimsole ownership of the truth. (Christians, read John 14:6 as you consider this statement.)

2) The core issue identified to be the bridge between the West and Islam is resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

3) The global and problematic players in this conflict have been identified as the adherents of the three monotheistic faiths.

4) Failure to resolve this conflict will result in a failed Alliance of Civilizations.”

On Rick Warren's website, he has many books that deal with a "clash of civilizations".  Knowing that he is now in Tony Blair's Faith Foundation, which is connected to the Millennium Development Goals, as is the AOC, causes one to wonder how long until the False Prophet will be known. 

[chatty-kathi]

Another site that I read that is discussing the Euromed is Pastor Brian Roberts, link http://www.pastorbrianroberts.com/ .

Constance Cumbey discusses it, too.  I'm sure you've linked to her, but as a reminder, her link is http://www.cumbey.blogspot.com/ .

I referenced Farmer in my above post.  His link is http://www.freiberg.blogspot.com/ .

As I was studying Prewrath, I came across Ted Montgomery's site.  I shared with him what we were discussing at F.P.  He pretty much dismissed it.  Some time later, he had researched it and has an impressive section at his site.  The link is http://www.tedmontgomery....blovrvw/Endtimes/ENP.html .

Richard Peterson's blog discusses it, too, which is at http://pineline.blogspot....m/2007_12_01_archive.html .

Here is David Butterfield's, referenced in the above post, link http://www.davidjbutterfield.blogspot.com/ .

Prophecy in the News discusses it, too, at http://www.prophecynews.co.uk/ .

Hopefully some of these are new for you to check out.  We won't know for sure until the A.O.D., but when I see that temple being built... I will know it is soon!

Kathi

[SoftTouch]

Wow Sis, Thank you for all this info!  It's going to take a WHILE to go through all of it!!!

Let's look again at that important passage from Daniel. We read:
 
"And he [the coming Antichrist] will make a firm [or make strong, confirm] covenant with the many for one week [seven years], but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate" (Daniel 9:27 New American Standard Bible).

Ok, here's the one thing that bothers me about thinking that 2007 starts this 'covenant with the many.'   There is No Temple with the Sacrificial Rites in place right now... so how could it be stopped mid-way through when it doesn't exist yet?   

Also the man of sin (son of perdition - Anti-Christ) is said to:

2 Thessalonians 2:4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (KJV)

Again... this temple has not been built yet   (And even when it is, I don't see how it could even be called the 'temple of God' as the Lord God Almighty won't be dwelling in that building at all)... this one twists my brain too as I tend to interpret Scripture Literally.

[Pete]

Again... this temple has not been built yet   (And even when it is, I don't see how it could even be called the 'temple of God' as the Lord God Almighty won't be dwelling in that building at all)... this one twists my brain too as I tend to interpret Scripture Literally.

The Temple HAS been built.  At least most of it!  As I understand it, the Temple has been built as a set of modular systems that are stored in a warehouse awaiting assembly.  If the Jews are given the 'go ahead', they'll have a Temple up in less than 90 days.  The priestly garments have been made.  The High Priestly headdress is made.  The furniture is made.  The Levitical lines have been identified by DNA and priests are trained or are being trained.  A red heifer awaits sacrifice...  It is all ready for someone to open the curtain on that act....

I can search for confirmation if you need...

Pete

[Whrose]

Don't forget this year they had their first "practice' animal sacrifice!

But I agree with ST...the temple is still not in place for the proposed 2007 date that Herb Peters proposes. Soon... but not 2006 nor 2007.

[Pete]

Don't forget this year they had their first "practice' animal sacrifice!

But I agree with ST...the temple is still not in place for the proposed 2007 date that Herb Peters proposes. Soon... but not 2006 nor 2007.

I'm not convinced the temple has to be in place before the time period can start...  I am convinced it has to be in place before the midpoint when the deal is broken.  Therefore, (though I do not believe the current deal is the one) in theory, the temple can still be in place before mid-2010 for the current deal to be broken....

I do believe, however the details work out, that it is highly unlikely they will conduct sacrifices for 3.5 years!   I think the Temple will have to go up near the mid-point and then PETA and other similar tree huggers will pitch a total fit about animal sacrifice emboldening and justifying the actions of the A/C when he stands in the temple and declares himself to be god....

JMO.

Pete

[Whrose]

Good point, nowhere in scripture does it give a timeline that the temple must be in place.

What about the head wound in the beast.

Revelation 13:3

13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast

Do you think this happens after the "peace deal"?

I have been watching Solana for awhile and while he certainly holds some interesting 666 titles I still can't see him as "The".

Despite his accomplishments (which are impressive to be sure) I don't see him as being one to be worshipped and made an image to.

Revelation 13:4

13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

IMO, he does not fit the beast of the sea in Rev 13 as I take this description literally.
Lots of sign with No punch...but I will not hold this view should I see the character of REV 13 on stage.

please, I beg patience but IF the deal has been made I will take drastic steps in my life regarding my retirement. This will place me at total odds with friends and family.
Will do but have not gotten that Rev 13 hmmph yet. Maybe the Lord has blinded my eyes. If so I will do a prayer fast. and repent my sin that causes my blindness.
I am quite sincere. I prepare but have lazed investment strategies

[SoftTouch]

Good point, nowhere in scripture does it give a timeline that the temple must be in place.

What about the head wound in the beast.

Revelation 13:3

13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast

Ok, here's where I think a lot of Bible Scholars might be "OFF"...

The Beast is Not the AntiChrist... The Little Horn that grows up among the 10 and subdues 3 of the 10 horns IS the AntiChrist.

The Beast is the Final World Kingdom.  The Little Horn (AC) will be the One World Ruler for a short time (42 months?)

Am I warm here?

[Sam]

I think that the office(s) that were created with the two EU resolutions (that Solana occupies) will be the positions that the AC will occupy. Does not necessarily mean that Solana is the AC, probably the one before the AC ascends to the seat of power. Keep an eye on Tony Blair.

[Gregorian]

The Temple HAS been built.  At least most of it!  As I understand it, the Temple has been built as a set of modular systems that are stored in a warehouse awaiting assembly.  If the Jews are given the 'go ahead', they'll have a Temple up in less than 90 days.  The priestly garments have been made.  The High Priestly headdress is made.  The furniture is made.  The Levitical lines have been identified by DNA and priests are trained or are being trained.  A red heifer awaits sacrifice...  It is all ready for someone to open the curtain on that act....

I first heard about the pre-fab construction of the Temple a couple of months ago (my office is directly across from a Jewish community center; the Rabbi and I are on good terms and occasionally speak of happenings in Israel), but haven't found confirmation of it anywhere - which is why I never posted about it before. Any links would be helpful, Bro Pete. 

Also, I was thinking about this very subject the other day. What if someone built another structure on the temple mount (aside from the Third Temple) and placed their "throne" or image in the physical space where the Holy of Holies stood when the temple existed? Wouldn't this still desecrate the place reserved for G-d alone? In other words, does the Third Temple have to exist as such for the prophecy to be fulfilled? We've already seen a Jewish sacrifice outside of the Temple (and will probably see more "exhibitions" of this in the future). Just thinking out loud, but am I way off base here?

(Don't get me started on the abomination called the Dome of the Rock, either...).

[Whrose]

Good point, nowhere in scripture does it give a timeline that the temple must be in place.

What about the head wound in the beast.

Revelation 13:3

13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast

Ok, here's where I think a lot of Bible Scholars might be "OFF"...

The Beast is Not the AntiChrist... The Little Horn that grows up among the 10 and subdues 3 of the 10 horns IS the AntiChrist.

The Beast is the Final World Kingdom.  The Little Horn (AC) will be the One World Ruler for a short time (42 months?)

Am I warm here?

ST you are not only warm..but hot on scripture!  EU and Solana fit the
 7th head=king(dom) in Rev 17, ( the 10 kings that come to power with the AC),
but IMO do not fit the composite beast described as the 8th, nor beast(out of the sea) of Rev 13, Daniel 7.

The little horn has not shown his head IMO...but welcome others read of this!
Scripture tells us this horn will survive a fatal head wound! (now if Solana gets wounded I will eat my hat, shoes, and run!

Solana does not fit the whole composite description of the beast Rev 17. Yet he does fit into the revived Roman Empire. ( but he is quite busy in forming, negotiating mid east alliance's, hmm

The eight King or head I have yet to identify sola scripture. THE AC

Yet the EU coin does cause me to pause at the rise of the beast in Rev 17 and certainly the EU does fit the prophecy of the 10 kings.



Pete, I won't get you started on the dome if you don't get me started!

Sola scripture please!

(edit only to clear my response)

[Sam]

Recommendation that gives Solana's position control of the military.
http://www.assembly-weu.o...txts_adopted.php#P51_3072

RECOMMENDATION 666
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on the consequences of including certain functions of WEU
in the European Union - reply to the annual report of the Council

The Assembly,

(i) Thanking the Council for rapidly conveying the second part of its forty-fifth annual report and the detailed information contained therein;

(ii) Noting that the Council's informal reflection process on Security and Defence Europe deals with the preparation of WEU's legacy and problems connected with the inclusion of those WEU functions that the European Union regards as necessary to fulfil its responsibilities in the area of crisis management, but that the parliamentary dimension is not part of that process;

(iii) Aware that the Council and the Assembly will continue to exist for as long as the modified Brussels Treaty remains in force and that they both bear the prime responsibility for application of the Treaty;

(iv) Reminding the Council nevertheless that the modified Brussels Treaty assigns it responsibilities with a view to promoting the progressive integration of Europe and cooperation with other European organisations and that the Treaty on European Union, which states that WEU is an integral part of its development, confers upon it additional tasks in respect of the European Union;

(v) Recalling that the parliamentary dimension of European security and defence forms part of WEU's legacy and that the Council must exercise its responsibility with a view to guaranteeing the continuity of such dimension;

(vi) Stressing the fundamental importance of WEU's responsibility to ensure that the establishment of direct cooperation between the European Union and NATO can be successfully achieved once WEU ceases to play its pivotal role between the European Union and NATO;

(vii) Stressing also the need for the Council urgently to clarify what is to become of those WEU responsibilities that are not transferred to the European Union and the resultant consequences for WEU as an Organisation;

(viii) Strongly desirous that WEU, whose major achievements since its reactivation laid the foundations for the initiatives that led to the Cologne and Helsinki decisions, should do its utmost to further the success of projects to be finalised between now and the end of 2000;

(ix) Welcoming with satisfaction the Declaration issued at the Helsinki Summit which confirms that the European Union recognises that primary responsibility for maintaining international peace and security lies with the United Nations Security Council,

RECOMMENDS THAT THE COUNCIL

   1. Take the measures necessary for WEU to ensure that the collective defence commitment provided for in Article V of the modified Brussels Treaty is effectively maintained, taking account of the recent decisions concerning the European Security and Defence Policy;

   2. Pursue its process of informal reflection on Security and Defence Europe and include the parliamentary dimension within it on the basis of the proposals contained in Assembly Recommendation 664;

   3. Propose to the European Union that, on the basis of the work undertaken by the Portuguese presidency and joint proposals put forward by Britain and France, it establish a Consultative Council for the CESDP bringing together European Union member states, EU applicant countries and non-EU European members of NATO, which would meet at least twice a year at ministerial level;

   4. Ensure, while respecting the European Union's decision-making autonomy, that the delegations of the non-EU European members of NATO and of the EU applicant countries have participation rights in the Consultative Council for the CESDP at least equivalent to those they have acquired in the WEU Council as associate members and associate partners;

   5. Propose to the European Council that the European Union sign a protocol to be appended to the Treaty on European Union, stipulating that the Consultative Council for the CESDP - without prejudice to the provisions of Articles 4 and 21 - shall make an annual report on those of its activities under the CFSP which have defence implications, to the European Security and Defence Assembly (ESDA) composed of representatives of the fifteen parliaments of the signatory states of the Treaty on European Union, representatives of the fifteen parliaments of the EU applicant countries and the non-EU European members of NATO, and representatives of the European Parliament;

   6. Ensure that the delegations of the non-EU European members of NATO and of the EU applicant countries have participation rights in the European Security and Defence Assembly that are at least equivalent to those they have acquired in the WEU Assembly as associate members and associate partners;

   7. Do what is necessary to ensure that during the transitional period WEU is in a position to respond more effectively to any requests from the European Union to develop and implement actions of the Union, anticipating them in so far as is possible;

   8. Assist the European Union in framing its "headline goal" of deploying and sustaining a European force capable of carrying out the full range of Petersberg missions, on the basis of the work done by WEU, in relation especially to the illustrative Petersberg mission profiles;

   9. Make public opinion and the political authorities in the member states aware of the need for additional funding to achieve the "headline goal", in particular to guarantee that the said European force is militarily self-sufficient and has the necessary capability to carry out the proposed missions;

  10. Ensure that the function WEU currently fulfils as an essential element of the European Security and Defence Identity (ESDI) within the Atlantic Alliance is in future fulfilled by the European Union's CESDP;

  11. Support efforts to set up flexible forms of closer cooperation in the framework of the CFSP and CESDP that are not strictly limited to European Union member states;

  12. Support proposals for the WEU Secretary-General and CFSP High Representative to preside over the PSC and civilian crisis-management machinery and give him powers to convene the Council of the European Union in the event of an emergency;

  13. Propose to the European Union that it base its relationship with NATO on a provision of the Treaty on European Union comparable with that of Article IV of the modified Brussels Treaty;

  14. Prepare and transmit to the European Union an in-depth assessment of its experience in the field of crisis management and propose to the Union that it base its new responsibilities in this area on a new provision of the Treaty on European Union drawing on Article VIII.3 of the modified Brussels Treaty;

  15. Assist the European Union in coordinating civilian and military crisis management using the CIMIC concept as a basis and inform the Assembly about this concept;

  16. Carry out an audit of those areas of the modified Brussels Treaty not transferred to the European Union and a study of the resultant consequences for WEU as an Organisation;

  17. Give the Assembly an indication of the repercussions the transfer of certain WEU functions to the EU will have for the annual report the Council has to make to the Assembly, pursuant to Article IX of the modified Brussels Treaty;

  18. Strengthen and extend the activities of the Torrejón Satellite Centre, taking into account all the implications of its transfer to the European Union, including the fact that it works in a configuration of 16 countries, and inform the Assembly of its findings before taking any decision on such a transfer;

  19. Ensure that the WEU Institute for Security Studies can continue its activities in the service of WEU and the European Union;

  20. From now on, give the National Armaments Directors, and WEAG and WEAO which the Council has decided should for the time being remain WEU's responsibility, more specific guidance and a more positive political impetus, so as to strengthen European cooperation in this connection, and consult the Assembly before taking any decision on the future tasks and institutional position of such organisations;

  21. Take a decision on the future of the Transatlantic Forum, ensuring that the European Union is able to take advantage of the Forum's acquis to help it organise security cooperation with the transatlantic allies:

  22. Ensure that all WEU bodies for a time continue their dialogue with Russia and Ukraine and consider how the acquis represented by that dialogue can be preserved if transferred to the European Union, taking account in particular of the need for continuity of the formal relations the WEU Assembly has established with both chambers of the Russian Parliament;

  23. Continue its dialogue with the southern Mediterranean countries and consult the Assembly before taking any decision as to the future of that dialogue;

  24. Oppose any solution worked out within the European Union framework that seeks to reduce associate member and associate partner participation rights in missions whose implementation is to be transferred to the European Union;

  25. Encourage the observer countries to commit themselves fully and without reservation to all aspects of the European Security and Defence Policy and invite their parliaments to send full delegations to the Assembly's meetings and sessions as the Assembly invites them so to do in Order 112;

  26. Propose to the European Union General Affairs Council that it hold a meeting with the Assembly's Presidential Committee as soon as possible.

[Sam]

This one preceded the above recommendation, it gave Solanas' position the authority to be the sole spokesperson for the EU.

http://europa.eu/generalreport/en/1998/x0666.htm

666. In December the Vienna European Council expressed the opinion that the Secretary-General of the Council and High Representative for the CFSP should be appointed as soon as possible and be a personality with a strong political profile. It invited the Council to prepare common strategies on Russia, Ukraine, the Mediterranean region and the western Balkans, on the understanding that the first would be on Russia. Welcoming the new impetus given to the debate on a common European policy on security and defence, the European Council also noted that the CFSP should be backed by credible operational capabilities

[Whrose]

I have a few bugs with Solana and his WEU 666 recommendation and this process to be the start of the 70th week in Daniel (start Jan 2007

But will wait for ya all to understand what Peters says.

But I think if you read Herb Peters summary, not to long, it should get us all on the same page.

http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/page/overview/

[SoftTouch]

I have a few bugs with Solana and his WEU 666 recommendation and this process to be the start of the 70th week in Daniel (start Jan 2007

But will wait for ya all to understand what Peters says.

But I think if you read Herb Peters summary, not to long, it should get us all on the same page.

http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/page/overview/

Thank You!  I'm sitting here trying to read the online book LOL!!!  That's gonna take me a week!  I'll check out the above link instead (and would still love it if anyone (Yo... Pete? ) can give me their overview as well)

[SoftTouch]

I don't mean to go off topic here (just a wee bit.) but I found this particularly Interesting!

The UN plans to use the Euromed and the ENP as the framework in which to begin implementing the AoC. If successful, the idea is to extend it globally. A World Parliament of eminent religious leaders is to follow. Also to soon follow is the appointment of an AoC High Representative  a person of renowned political and religious qualifications.
If it makes it through the UN process, then the AoC will become operational in September 2009

According to the “House of Theosophy” (a New Age organization founded in 1875 by Madame Blavatsky who channeled a so-called Ascended Master'  Demon) They say the best person to bring about the reign of their “New Age Christ” (the AC) is none other then The Pope 

Check out this excerpt from this Cutting Edge Ministry Article COMPLETE SEMINAR NOTES FROM HOUSE OF THEOSOPHY SEMINAR which is the experience of a Christian who was accidentally invited to one of their meetings:

NOTE: MINUTES BEFORE THE ANTICHRIST ARISES, SOME SUPERNATURAL SOUND WILL BE HEARD, AND SPIRITUALLY FELT, BY EVERYBODY ON THE PLANET, SIMULTANEOUSLY. AT NO OTHER MOMENT IN WORLD HISTORY WILL SO MANY PEOPLE BE IMPACTED AT ONCE. THIS ACTION IS DESIGNED TO GET EVERYONE LOOKING AROUND AND UPWARD, AS TO WHAT CAUSED THIS SOUND. THEN, WITH EVERYONE'S ATTENTION AROUSED, IMAGES OF ANTICHRIST WILL APPEAR SIMULTANEOUSLY OVER THE ENTIRE EARTH, SPEAKING TO MANKIND, EACH IN HIS OWN LANGUAGE. THE "SIGNS AND WONDERS" WILL HAVE BEGUN.

"Energies want to flow from the Hierarchy to earth to produce the physical manifestation of the Christ; but, such flow can only occur when humanity raises its collective consciousness to be properly awakened receptors." (Page 617-618, Externalisation of the Hierarchy, paraphrased by Mr. Lambert).

At this point, I raised my hand to ask Mr. Lambert, 'You spoke earlier about the Pope going to Jerusalem; when Lord Maitreya makes his appearance, there will be three types of people:

1. Those whose consciousness has been properly raised so they can readily accept him;

2. Those whose consciousness has been raised somewhat but not so high that they can readily and immediately accept him, but they might be able to accept him after further enlightenment;

3. Those who will never accept him.'

I continued:

'What responsibility do the leaders of the world's religions have toward those members of their flock who are of group number two? Will they step forward to publicly urge group number two people to accept the Christ?'

Bill's answer was that the acceptance of the Christ was completely an individual affair.

I then tried again to get Bill to state that one of the leaders of the world's religion would step forward to play the role of the Biblical False Prophet. I said, 'Back to the Pope for a moment, Bill. You stated that, at the right moment, the Pope would go to Jerusalem. Surely the Pope is a proper receptor to the Christ'

At this point, Bill nodded his head affirmatively that the Pope was a proper receptor to the Christ. This is the most direct acknowledgement by an influential person involved in the planning for the appearance of Christ that the current Pope is ready and waiting for the appearance of The Christ. This acknowledgement also points to the Roman Catholic Pope as the False Prophet, because Bill stated, very pointedly, that the preparation for the New World Order religion was being paved by the Ecumenical Movement, which is being spear-headed by the Pope.

Now this was during JPII's reign as Pope but that doesn't mean that who ever is after Benedict (or even Benedict himself) couldn't fulfill this position

Also interesting is that the House of Theosophy and also Lucius Trust (started by Alice Bailey) are two New Age organizations that are HUGLY embraced by the U.N.  their Temple of Understanding' resides right outside the UN Building (and used to be inside it before the new building was built).

Does Solana have any ties to these organizations?  Or the Masons? That we can find?  Does he have any Occult ties that anyone's come across?

[Whrose]

Oh yeah, Solana's positions permanent by recommendation 666
1 Secretary general of council of the EU
2 Secretary general WEU

As such, he is seated at the UN
also he is seated on the ENPI which he is responsible for creating and came to new power Jan 2007 (the start of the 70th week according to Peters)

check this out Solana is in deep with the AOC
http://www.euromedinfo.eu...b184deaa3800bdbf986d83c6c

Cooperation between EU and Alliance of Civilisations discussed
Wednesday, 09 April 2008

Jorge Sampaio & Javier SolanaHow the EU and the Alliance of Civilisations (AoC) can further their cooperation in a comprehensive yet concrete and result-oriented manner, was discussed at a meeting between Javier Solana, EU High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP), and Jorge SAMPAIO, High Representative for the Alliance.
 
Special attention was given to the potential of two major AoC projects: The On-line Clearing House initiative and the Rapid Response Media Mechanism.
 
The discussion also touched upon the potential of a closer cooperation between the AoC and the Barcelona Process, including the ideas about a Union for the Mediterranean.
 
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It is a fascinating study, I admit, not all do I understand, and look forward to future discussions. I am OPEN to corrections!

[Whrose]

(((Kathi)))

I read your post again and again, Thank you, It really is a good summary in explaining the EU, Solana, UN &AOC, and ENPI.

As I am not fond or government organizational structures I do appreciate the insightful commentaries found at FP , Cumbley, Farmer, Peterson, and Butterfield sites.
I think I am understanding this better.

I have a question. How does Iraq play into this scenario. We all can agree how the revived Roman Empire aka the EU plays into this.
If you can would you help me here in my thoughts.

1 Am I wrong in the conclusion that you (FP etc) are thinking that Solana is the 8th King  of the seven(see Rev 17:11) ? This beast composite also being the Rev 13 beast from the sea?
2 Solana fulfills the man in Daniel 7:8 and Daniel 8:23-24, Daniel 9:27
3 The ENPI is the peace covenant (Israel signed on first) spearheaded by Solana and the EU that is the same as described by Daniel 9:27
4 The UN and AOC is of the Beast that comes from the sea Rev 13 and perhaps is the part of this beast that gives its authority to the Rev13 beast that comes out of the earth?

also
Considering the Rev13 beast that comes up out of the earth and as I understand it is the false prophet that has 2 horns like a lamb but speaks as the dragon (sea beast) headed by the AC. Who are you considering this beast to be?

If the 70th week begun in 2007 as you are proposing the false prophet must surely be on stage and in full action (recognition). Who are you suggesting this one be?

Thanks so much for your reply and I look forward to it! Like you and the other sites you link to, I have a passion for prophecy, but am convinced it must be 100% scripturally identified before I can find agreement. I appreciate your comments to these remarkable events before us and HOW they relate to scripture and look forward to your response!

  in the Name of

[Mike 99]

I have believed for some time that the head with the mortal wound was Germany, East & West Berlin to be exact. the wound was the wall which has been healed.

There has to be a sacrifice made of the red heifer to purify the articles of the temple. the temple doesn't have to be fully built for this sacrifice to take place.

I know of people since the '60's that have contributed to the Temple Mount society . And it has even been suggested that the prefab. temple could be set up in 3 days.
Just My

[Whrose]

It sure does seem to fit Jiff! The Nazi's were an evil empire!

hmmm does it fit into the composite Rev 13 beast?

Yes,  Germany is one of the nations in the EU (original 10) and is a growing power as an individual nation and even more as a collective collage in the EU.
My Jewish husband says the EU did what Hitler wanted to before he got caught in the occult and his "termination plan" And it is THE modern nation of history that exterminated the Jews in the most horrid way! (however they were persecuted throughout Europe but none as infamous as what the German nation did in WW11.

However at present I am thinking the Revelation beast is now ( but a composite of the past beasts in the history of Israel),  growing in present times, and its characteristics will come to pass in the tribulation of saints.

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Therefore the "wound that healed" may be before our eyes in the coming days.